Michael E. Chalberg, a pastor and cofounder of
Shepherd's Care Ministries, had a definite purpose in writing
this book. He intends to suggest ways in which we can find the
real God for ourselves by exposing the inadequate conceptions
of God, which prevent us from seeing Him. He comprehensively
accomplishes just that as he writes about a woman with Multiple
Personality Disorder.
He gives a complete history and profile of more
than 66 personalities that make up the system of this individual,
and he allows the personalities to tell their own stories, in
their own words, as they come to know God through Jesus. Chalberg
does not camouflage or water down the descriptions of evil encountered
in these lives or in their responses to that evil.
This book will deepen your understanding of MPD,
as well as the miracles sent by God to heal, renew and give everlasting
love, as each part remembers and learns to deal with the truth
of their abuse. Chalberg poses fascinating questions such as,
" does each personality of a multiple have their own soul
before God, or is integration of the personalities into one soul
the only way they are acceptable to God?"
The book is remarkably well written, well organized,
and shows a broad knowledge of the subject. However ...Chalberg
does not boast. He gives all honor and glory to Jesus. He causes
the reader to question the potential of mankind to do good, yet
affirms God's power to cause good to come from the evil that
we do to each other. One can't help but appreciate and feel his
love for Jesus, and his burning dedication to help shattered
people, as it is so perfectly depicted in his words.
PageOneLit.com: Who were your earliest influences
in your reading and writing growing up and why?
Michael E. Chalberg: My earliest influence
for both was my second grade teacher, Ms. Jackson. I had a crush
on her and I got the best grades in class to be seated in front
to be near her. In junior high, my stepfather (of four) encouraged
me to escape gang involvement in the Barrio by sending me to
the library with a reading list to complete. These authors included
Homer, Plato, Isaac Asimov, Ray Bradbury and John Steinbeck.
He also suggested that I could meet girls there and that helped
to keep me there after finishing my assignment. He also helped
me in my creative writing skills. As a young successful adult,
my greatest influence was Bruce Ferry. He introduced me to C.S.
Lewis, Henri Nouwen, the Biblical Prophets and personally to
Jesus Christ. His openness in sharing the truth of the Gospel
in practical ways, helped guide me in my search for truth to
authors like Peter Kreeft, Jacques Ellul, Thomas Aquinas, John
Stott and Morton Kelsey.
PageOneLit.com: Shattered People: Journeys
to Joy is a remarkable volume of work - how did this series
begin? Discuss your background and experience and how that helped
you write this
Michael E. Chalberg: I grew up in Texas
for the first 10 years and except for several near death experiences,
it was a fairly normal life. However, the next 16 could be described
as dysfunctional in too many levels to cover here. Moving to
California with my mother and 4 brothers was the
beginning of
the 'school of hard knocks.' Although I didn't recognize God
in my life during these difficult and tumultuous years, I could
look back later in life as an adult Christian and see how He
would turn "what was meant for evil into good to His glory."
Life continued to be filled with many hardships after accepting
Jesus in my life, but I was being taught a new perspective for
dealing with them. By the time I added to my ministry, the pastoral
counseling to profoundly abused people, I had survived; sexual
abuse, family suicides, gangs, alcoholic and drug-addicted stepfathers,
divorce, corporate bankruptcy, the '60s, some measure of wealth
and poverty, more near-death-experiences, a successful 2nd marriage,
and many other encounters with God's grace. He had prepared me
to be real in my empathy for connecting to the people who would
become the resources for the Shattered People series. I had learned,
actually still learning, about the power of God's unconditional
love for me in Jesus Christ. He gave me the task of giving this
same love that carried me through life's difficulties to the
people who needed it most. At the end of Journeys to Joy, I tell
the story of how God called me to write these books.
PageOneLit.com: In Book One: Journeys
to Joy, you begin by saying, that "being a pastor is
one of the most challenging and difficult vocations in the world
today." Please explain.
Michael E. Chalberg: If you ask most Christians
today about their expectations of their 'spiritual leaders';
you will find that they are expected to lead exemplary lives,
moreover, lives without sin. While accomplishing this impossible
task, they are expected to teach truths without error, about
God in the manner and traditions of those who have called them
to that position
who also pay their salary based upon their
performance of these tasks. They are asked to manage the household
of the church with the dexterity of a benevolent father, the
vision of a prophet, the Wisdom of Solomon, the rhetoric of Paul,
the results of Billy Graham and all of this within budget. Most
clergy are not well trained in the skills of designing a working
budget before they are thrust into the responsibility of staying
within one. Many are not prepared for the rigors of providing
pastoral counseling to the diversity of needs in a rapidly changing
society, enmeshed in an ever decreasing global community. A pastor's
success is measured in numbers and growth factors, and not by
the personal sacrifices often required for this vocation.
When a man or woman is truly called by God into
this profession, the sacrifices and difficulties are inconsequential
when being obedient to God's call. In this life, everyone needs
to feel appreciated for the work they do and their purpose for
doing it. For the pastor or priest, the expectation of appreciation
is often fulfilled only within a vision of future eternal reward,
over fulfilling rewards here on earth.
PageOneLit.com: Journeys to Joy &
Journeys to Love tells of choices made on paths and journeys
of faith. Can you describe how individuals were able to go from
one stage to the next without falling backward - I.E. = "The
Narrow Path", "Stumbling on the Higher Path",
"Finding Paths of Truth", "The Soul's Search for
Reality" and "In Search of a Refuge to Worship"?
Michael E. Chalberg: Actually, many times
in our search for truth we will make the wrong choice and stumble
backwards in the healing process, as the people in the books
discovered. In the early
years, they
could be stalled for weeks and the pace of recovery was slower
then. With each failure or disappointment the recovery time grew
shorter, as they learned that bad choices by them and others
are inevitable and a part of life. It was the love of Christ
in our journeys, which picked us up and encouraged us to risk
moving forward again, often in very discouraging circumstances.
Jesus asks us to let Him share the yoke of carrying our burdens
together, while telling all His disciples to help 'bear one another's
burdens." Throughout the Shattered People series
you will read how the love of God consistently moves the individuals
forward into the next stage of healing, despite their choices
or the choices of others, as quickly as they were willing to
trust Him again. You will also read how some choose the easier
path with fewer burdens, and miss God's best for them in the
lessons of life. God loves us enough to let us make our own choices
in any situation. The possibility of falling backward is always
present, but so is Jesus. He meets us where we are in life and
offers His strength to begin the journey again
present with
us..
PageOneLit.com: Can you discuss here a few
of the abused people talked about in the Shattered People
series and how they are doing now?
Michael E. Chalberg: To understand the significance
of what I'm about to share, one will have to read about their
healing journey in the last two books, Journeys to Hope &
Journeys to Peace, to more fully grasp the awesome power of God's
love in their lives. Ann's struggle to define herself through
teaching, will not only change and challenge everyone within
the System, it will have a dramatic affect upon the lives of
hundreds of students. A miraculous event in 2003 will make Ann
the final person to accept Jesus as Lord, and a new journey will
begin for the entire System.
I began this journey with 66 people in 1994 and
in 2005 there will be 9 surface people and 9 who remain inside.
No one has died or given up their life, in order to blend or
integrate, as everyone has chosen freely to do so for themselves.
Those who remain are 'more' than they were before the blending,
and reveal this through their individual gifts now shared. How
many will remain as a multiple for God's purposes
only God
knows, yet we see already His plan being fulfilled within the
lives of these individuals.
Maria, the weakest adult dealing with the tragedies of her life,
has become the strongest one in her faith in God, only rivaled
by the 10-year-old, Mariann. Liz has progressed in controlling
her anger, but she still likes to stir-up the Suburban Christian
Church with her gift of prophesy. Each of the adults and children
who remain will learn from the trials and choices of those who
go before them, and become better people because of it. They
will mourn the losses of long-time fellow travelers, yet celebrate
with the new creations that each one becomes in Christ.
PageOneLit.com: Book Two, Journeys to
Love, brings up many questions which challenge our understanding
of God and who we are in relationship to Him as created beings.
Can you lightly touch on some of these? "Does the soul live
in two dimensions?" "How does one hear God's voice
above all others?" Why do you say that Dissociative Identity
Disorder (Multiple Personality Disorder) is a gift from God
and
what is it?
Michael E. Chalberg: The last question is
the easiest to answer. The human psyche/soul was created to know,
receive and experience the true love of God from conception.
An infant or young child, sometimes even an adult - though rare,
encounter traumatic events like sexual or ritual abuse
from people
with power over them. Often it is from people the soul understands
as someone who is supposed to love them with God's love, like
their parents, pastor, priest, or family member. For these severely
abused, the psyche has 2 basic options with which to respond
to this contradiction within our very purpose for living
our
need to give and receive unconditional love that is not painful,
but joyful and fulfilling. It can shut down and die by losing
the will to survive, or it seeks a method to endure the prevailing
pain in order to salvage life, but life without purpose is not
living, only existing. The dynamic of Dissociation of identities
or persons, allows for existence to continue and our search for
meaning before God.
When God gives the gift of DID, it is for the 'soul'
purpose of surviving the trauma so that the child can one day
come to know the truth about God and make their own choices about
life and death accordingly. The soul/psyche creates another person
to receive the traumatic event to the body/mind, thereby removing
the stress and strain of comprehending the abusive act on the
first person. A wall or partition is created within the mind
to keep the memories separate for the self-protection of all
lives residing there, a survival mechanism. When the soul/psyche
reaches a point of maturity that can deal with the horrors of
life's realities, these partitions may collapse due to outside
triggers, proper diagnosis and/or God's intervention, so that
healing can begin to help us understand just who we are. Yet,
sadly, without proper diagnosis and assistance, healing may not
occur in this lifetime. This ties into the first question, "does
the soul live in two dimensions?"
We are created as sentient, spiritual beings so
that we may know our Creator and live in fellowship with God.
We freely acknowledge that God created both the physical and
spiritual dimensions, has dominion over both, and chooses to
reside within the spiritual dimension
where most people
find God easiest to accept and comprehend while He remains there.
God created our souls, the only part of us that can communicate
with God, with the ability to transcend dimensional barriers,
including physical life itself. Our soul therefore, is not limited
to this physical existence and yet, each soul identifies itself
by its encounters separately in each dimension. The physical
dimension has the perimeters of time and life lived within the
natural laws given it by its Creator. How we individually define
ourselves as a person here is dependent upon our experiences
in relationship to others and the physical world. We are the
center of our physical universe through self definition. Our
carnal nature can fulfill itself here without limitation in this
dimension only, yet we have a spiritual nature that yearns for
more.
The spiritual dimension is timeless and God is
its center. Our souls will seek God out in both plains of existence.
While the soul may coexist in both, it has to be open to receiving
God in either, in order to become transcendent with Him in relationship.
Historically, every time God intervenes in our physical world
we attribute it as something too miraculous to understand, or
too tragically bad to understand and classify both as 'acts of
God', thus our need for Jesus Christ to help our souls bridge
the gap of understanding both dimensions. Our soul can connect
to Jesus Christ in the physical world, while maintaining the
connection to the spiritually timeless God residing in the other.
The question of 'hearing God's voice above all
others' is, of course, relevant here for both dimensions. We
encounter people in our physical dimension and spiritual entities
in both dimensions, who are either trying to draw us nearer to
God, or keep us separated. Little children hear God's voice and
they are instinctively drawn to it, while more 'mature' adults
will restrain their instinct to reply. Jesus said, "My sheep
hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me." The
more we learn to trust His voice while being obedient to His
will we train our soul to hear with our heart and it overcomes
our fear of why He talks to us at all. Our heavenly Father's
voice, whether it's the voice bringing peace in the midst of
chaos, instruction in our time of need, or simply the energy
felt inside when we are in His presence, we become accustomed
to it. We can become so familiar with the consistency of voice,
word and will, that it isn't as important how He speaks to us
as why, and the multitude of surrounding voices become as whispers
before the love song in our Lord's voice. Jesus said this, "Truly,
truly, I say to you, he who hears My 'word,' (logos - the Divine
creative voice of God) and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal
life, and does not come unto judgment, but has passed out of
death into life. Truly, truly, I say to you, an hour is coming,
and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of
God; and those who hear shall live." John 5:24, 25.
In both dimensions, God's voice is consistent with
His revelation in Jesus Christ, His written word in the Bible
and His love for mankind as shared through the Holy Spirit. Whether
I hear a still small voice in my heart, feel and hear the thunder
of His voice in His words already given, or reverberate in all
of my physical and spiritual being with the sharing of His love
spoken and received, I celebrate in the knowledge that He loves
us enough to keep talking to us even when we refuse to listen.
PageOneLit.com: What do you hope to achieve
with the Shattered People series and what do you want
readers to take away after reading these books?
Michael E. Chalberg: My hope is that my
readers will gain a new perspective of God's love and His desire
to bring healing into their life, and through their stories bring
healing to others. For the survivor of abuse who has been separated
from God out of fear or a sense of betrayal, I hope they will
learn through these life stories how God never forsakes us or
abandons us to this world. He is constantly giving His love to
sustain us and empower us to survive the evil we do to each other.
In
this physical
life we will experience sorrow and pain, but nothing can separate
us from the love of God in this life or the next, if we don't
allow it to along the way. Telling these stories to survivors
of abuse can change despair into hope and abandonment into belonging.
For those who provide caring and counsel to these
survivors, these books offer a simple yet effective approach
for sharing God's love and power with them, by allowing God to
use us in the way that He chooses, while not allowing our efforts
to be restricted by mankind's understanding of the process. When
we allow our fear of the unknown to define how much and in what
manner we share God's unconditional love, we inhibit God's efforts
through us at every turn. Anyone can offer assistance to broken
people on their journeys, if they choose to allow themselves
to become involved in their lives, in obedience to the will of
God.
PageOneLit.com: What has been your feedback
from readers?
Michael E. Chalberg: Many have contacted
me after reading book and stated how it has changed their life.
They noted how it has given them a better understanding of the
kind of issues that a survivor of abuse faces every day. Empathy
and a greater willingness to approach seemingly unapproachable
people has increased, because of understanding about those who
are labeled 'different'. When people read about another's suffering
and are able to identify in and with that pain, they also are
better able to share in the healing process in a cathartic way
by joining them in the journey.
One pastor wrote how it changed how he ministers
to 'street people' in his downtown church because of his clearer
understanding of the lack of choices in their lives. Another
said how it taught him how important it is to train people within
his congregation how to provide this same care, because of the
time required that he could not do himself. The professional
side of responses has been mostly praise for such an in-depth
clinical, yet practical, study of Dissociative Identity Disorder
and severe abuses like clergy abuse and SRA. Some are struggling
with how to apply it.
The readers who understand and identify with the
books the most have been the severely abused and their families,
even though it takes them more time to read and work through
the books because of it. The stories I've heard about how it
has helped them begin the journey of healing for the first time
are the most fulfilling for me. My requests for receiving free
pastoral counseling over my Internet chat room have dramatically
increased, specifically around the issues of healing from clergy
abuse and ritual abuse. They say the books offer a private and
confidential place to begin the healing. My purpose for writing
them has been affirmed many times over by the readers who have
begun a renewed relationship with God.
PageOneLit.com: What's next?
Michael E. Chalberg: The first two books
of four in the series represent just over half of our 11 year
journey together so far. I structured these books around their
real life journeys to illustrate how people who have endured
so much never have to give up hope for changing their reality.
Their story is representative of many cases of abuse across the
spectrum, not only in the questions they asked or the trials
they faced, but in the real struggles encountered by people everywhere
in their relationship with God. Journeys to Hope & Journeys
to Peace will reveal more of the miraculous journey yet unfinished.
As the healing continues with suffering and tears, so does the
joy and laughter of encountering God's healing love in increasingly
more miraculous ways. My challenge is to finish these last two
by next summer, while traveling to speak on these same subjects.
My latest challenge in ministry is preparing to
offer instruction and guidance in the healing ministry to my
Catholic brothers and sisters requesting my intervention in individual
churches. Though I've offered it for years, it is only recently
becoming an actual opportunity I don't wish to pass up. A good
example is a recent news article on clergy abuse in a local paper
that included a brief column about my counseling ministry in
this area, produced an average response of one or more victims
seeking help for various issues of abuse every day since it came
out. I trust that the Lord will direct us in how to accomplish
this ministry if it becomes widely known.
PageOneLit.com: What was the last book you
read?
Michael E. Chalberg: "The JOURNEY:
a spiritual roadmap for modern pilgrims" by Peter Kreeft,
IVP; at the same time I read, "Houses that change the World"
the return of the house churches.' By Wolfgang Simson, OM Publishing.
PageOneLit.com: What are your hobbies and
how do they enhance your writing?
Michael E. Chalberg: My hobbies are golf,
nature photography, science fiction movies and teaching about
the love of God. The golf teaches me discipline and humility.
The photography teaches me patience and awe before God's handiwork.
Science fiction movies keep my imagination open and ready for
the unexpected and unimaginable. Teaching about God's love keeps
me dependent upon that same love in my life to share with my
family, friends and those in need of it, especially in my writing.